Saturday, October 30, 2004

human too human

has some terrific posts on Bush, including a streaming Eminem get-out-the-vote video . . .

Also check out the frightening Thuggery File on Ornicus, documenting reports of election-related violence perpetrated by the right.

And speaking of frightening, the older I get the weirder Halloween seems to me. What's up with this exuberant celebration of the monstrous? I can see how themes of death and decay come into play given the change of seasons, but doesn't Halloween -- as a marketing phenomenon at least -- overdo it? And where does that sense of glee that I've always associated with the holiday come from? The fact that Halloween is executed at such a fever pitch and with such imagistic extremes suddenly strikes me as more than a little creepy. But then I really haven't been in a festive mood for the last four years . . .

Friday, October 29, 2004

bush's pre-2000 iraq war plans, political capital

According to Bush Sr. and Jr. ghostwriter Mickey Herskowitz in a great article by Russ Baker.

Not time to write much, but wanted to note the following:

“He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999,” said author and journalist Mickey Herskowitz. “It was on his mind. He said to me: ‘One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.’ And he said, ‘My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it.’ He said, ‘If I have a chance to invade….if I had that much capital, I’m not going to waste it. I’m going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I’m going to have a successful presidency.”

That notion of "political capital". I think this is a great term for what the neocons (as opposed to, say, radical Christian fundamentalists) admire about Bush. His political capital. It's not essentially different from love of monetary capital. Capital can be used to purchase other things, but the "best" use for it is to put it work generating more capital. Business and politics as the same kind of machines -- capital-generators. One produces monetary capital, the other political, and both are viewed as absolutely amoral, completely objective processes in which there's one and only one rule: whatever produces more capital -- do it.

Thursday, October 28, 2004

laura carter's egret party completed

Laura Carter mentioned today that she finished her multi-sectioned work, The Coming of the Fifteenth Egret Party. In the comments, she gives some insight into her process.

Wednesday, October 27, 2004

busy geekin' out

Geekin' out big time. When I haven't been performing tricks with MS Excel at work, I've been writing a PERL script to download most of the vital information from all of the emails the TV-B-Gone website has received. The script part of things has been quite a lot of fun and if anyone out there ever needs a PERL script to log on to your email account and download all of the email addresses along with the plain text content of every email in your account to a comma-separated text file, I'm your guy.

In other news, I've started taking a somatics-based class on becoming an "embodied writer". One of the ideas behind somatics seems to be that our bodies, in childhood and in certain deeply formative experiences, initiate certain postures and patterns of movement as forms of self-defense. Usually these postures are intended to interrupt what would, in less threatening circumstances, constitute a normal flow of action or feeling. The problem is that these interrupting gestures often become habituated, outliving their usefulness while remaining below the level of conscious attention. Our bodies are so used to reacting in certain ways to certain cues that we don't even realize a reaction is taking place. At any rate, one of the points of somatics work seems to be that of unlearning those reactions which have become needlessly inhibiting -- in this case, needlessly inhibiting to writing.

One exercise last night required someone to stand behind us, almost-but-not-quite touching, and remain silently standing there for somewhere around 30-60 seconds. The woman I stood behind reported feeling quite unnerved and I expected that I'd have a similar reaction. Instead, I couldn't even tell whether or not she had really moved behind me. I felt no difference whatsoever, save perhaps for a vague warmth from her body. The instructor found my lack of reaction puzzling. Apparently almost no one has no reaction. I mentioned that my partner, Jerry, sometimes worries about me walking home at night because I seem unaware of my surroundings -- and it dawned on me that I might really have a diminished sense of peripheral space, and that this diminished sense might account for a certain inability I've always had to precisely mimic the movements of others, and for why I always sucked so badly at team sports like soccer. Whether it's learning dance steps or learning how to throw a football (which an extraordinarily patient friend taught me how to do in college) -- one has to literally position my limbs the way they should go. I'd always just shrugged it off as me being clumsy or absent-minded, but maybe there's a kind of physiological perceptive phenomenon at work. Weird.


Saturday, October 23, 2004

history, image, autocritique

Nick Piombino on the just-about-to-sink ship of history . . .

Another Angelus Novus on Phaneronoemikon . . .

On Derrida at The Reading Experience . . .

"'I've read your pathetic sequence of posts. You write of the everyday but of what do you write? What is this category except the repository of old alienations, old ideologies?'" at Spurius . .

And, finally, a very good reason (that has nothing to do with the quality of his writing) to buy any book by Eduardo C. Corral . . . !

Friday, October 22, 2004

long week

A work rant follows. Consider yourself warned.

I spent the early part of this week building a huge MS Excel/Access "platform" to make the annual budgeting process easier. Basically it pulls a ton a financial information from a national database via a kludgy and relatively unsupported Excel-based add-in called TM1 that would have been hot stuff by, say, 1995 standards, dumps it into a big Access database where each item dropped into one of about 120 human-comprehensible categories, spits the consolidated data into an Excel template where it can be reviewed, modified, and sent back to the database with the touch of a button -- at which point it gets recoded back into its original financial-system-ease and reuploaded to the kludgy database. After working on this all day until 2 or 3 in the morning on both Sunday and Monday I received an email from my manager around noon on Tuesday asking if I can finish it four days ahead of schedule -- because "the other regions are ahead" of our region. So I managed to finish it around 3 Tuesday morning, demonstrate it to the five other people on my team (who are, thankfully, appreciative of my efforts) around 10 in the morning. I then spent the next 10 hours preparing, checking, and copying-and-pasting charts into Powerpoint slides for a presentation that the Local Emperor of Everything has to give to the National Emperor of Everything regarding how well the Local Emperor is managing almost Everything and what plans he has in place to better manage everything that falls into that "almost" By the way, Powerpoint is not only the television of the corporate world (check out this article from The New York Times Magazine entitled Powerpoint Makes You Dumb), it's also one of the most error-prone, inefficient, and inconsiderately-designed programs I have ever encountered. I'd rather build charts and graphs with a broken-off piece of pencil led held between my teeth.

Anyway, very little time this week to write or read or do anything at all worthwhile. The TV-B-Gone thing was by far the best part. That, and listening to an scratched-but-playable mono LP of the Rolling Stones' Between the Buttons. God, Ruby Tuesday is a powerful, moving song. I've heard on the radio all my life but, until this week, I'd never actually paid attention to it. And what a startling combination of rough-around-the-edges brashness and perfectly stately structure the early Stones' songs were . . .

Tuesday, October 19, 2004

tv-b-gone!

I'm incredibly, overflowingly pround of my friend Mitch, whose invention TV-B-Gone has generated a ton of unexpected press over the past couple of days (there's a good article in Wired, for instance). For those who've called him a jerk for inventing a device capable of turning off the incessant barage of corporate propoganda spewing into our public spaces, I'm tempted to say you wouldn't dislike him so much if you actually met him. But, no, you probably would. His personality is the antithesis of what television promotes. Mitch's gentle demeanor doesn't drown out anyone's voice and the quiet confidence he has in his convictions doesn't change according the fashions of the seasons. Not unlike his invention, Mitch's personality seems to open up space in which real conversation and communication can occur.

A few months back I walked with Mitch around the Castro while he demonstrated a prototype. It was late on a Saturday, so we had plently of anonymity on our side. We tested it in neighborhood bars, dance clubs, and late night pizza joints. We weren't obnoxious about it -- we targeted TV's that were just part of the "ambience" and not, say, TV's showing a baseball game to a crowd of fans. For me, the joy of seeing TV-B-Gone in action was located somewhere between that of a childhood prank and an act of civil disobedience.

Between then and now I ran into Mitch only a couple of times -- and each time the tiredness in his voice betrayed the amount of work he was putting into getting this thing to undergo the transformation from a set of microchips he burned in his in apartment and manually soldered onto a circuit board to a cute but deceptively plain-looking, factory-produced "fob" that fits on a keychain or in your pocket. TV-B-Gone had been a dream of his for over decade and he was giving it that final, exhausting push over the crest of a mountain separating daydream from reality. The exhaustion showed, but he seemed genuinely happy, if a bit overwhlemed. Which is about 1/3 of the reason I'm so delighted to see that his invention is in production, selling, and getting lots of attention -- I'm incredibly happy for him and his struggle to get this done has been nothing short of inspiring for me. He's one of the many reason I've felt such an inner push to put more effort into actively shaping -- or at least putting down the foundation for -- a life I want to live rather than hoping that it will be handed to me by circumstance. Not sure what changes that push will bring, but I can feel them on the horizon.

Another third of my delight comes from the simple fact that I'll soon be running around town myself with one of these things.

And the final third is that I honestly believe the dumbing-down effect of television, which intensifies as time goes on, is largely to blame for the dissolution of our democracy. Certainly this small device won't change that overnight. But the fact that TV-B-Gone exists at all is reason to hope.

So, Mitch, if you get a chance to read this between interviews and emergency rebuilds of the TV-B-Gone website, I couldn't possibly offer a congratulations as big as your accomplishment, but -- congratulations anyway!

And thank you.

Saturday, October 16, 2004

an excessively belated response to gary

All of this is probably moot now . . .

I'd like to try address a few of the points and sketches Gary Norris made in the Wittgenstein discussion that started over at Dagzine. I find Gary's thoughts a bit more difficult to address in a timely way than those of Thomas because Gary makes many big points quickly whereas Thomas tends to focus on details, teasing out one implication after another. I'm not saying that one way of doing things is better than any other; I suppose I just find the latter a bit easier to engage with immediately. (And in case you're out there, Thomas, I'm intrigued by your suggestions to the Tractatus word replacement experiment. I haven't had a chance to follow through with your suggestions but will hopefully sooner than later.)

I'll start with Gary's October 6 post, titled Constellations: Point 5, part one.

Gary writes:

I am bothered by [Wittgenstein's] statement in Culture and Value:

[T]here is a way of capturing the world sub specie aeterni other than through the work of the artist. Thought has such a way--so I believe--it is as though it flies above the world and leaves it as it is--observing it from above, in flight.
(5e, U of Chicago edition)


I am quite satisfied that there should be a way of capturing the world other than through art. But that thought is the way is very sly--we shouldn't trust it. I think this attempt to see thought flying above the world illustrates the function of thought in a way similar to how he illustrates the function of spirit--"but spirits will hover over the ashes [of culture]" (3e). Though the German verbs are distinctly different in kind and sense, we may ask what distinction we can make between the two--thought and spirit, flying and hovering. I believe literary artists purposefully perform this function--should perform, since we are talking oughts.

This is where Emerson's "Circles" sits on our map:

Literature is a point outside of our hodiernal circle through which a new one may be described. The use of literature is to afford us a platform whence we may command a view of our present life, a purchase by which we may move it.

Therefore we value the poet. All the argument and all the wisdom is not in the encyclopedia, or the treatise on metaphysics, of the Body of Divinity, but in the sonnet or play....[The poet] smites or arouses me with his shrill tones, breaks up my whole chain of habits, and I open my eye on my own possibilities. He claps his wings to the sides of all the solid old lumber of the world, and I am capable once more of choosing a straight path in theory and practice.


So, a beef with Wittgenstein. The literary artists take their place in society as folks whose labor is useful because it refurbishes all that is the case and re-presents the world allowing us to get it straight. I think Wittgenstein wanted to keep that for philosophy.


I too am bothered by Wittgenstein's remark. At first glance it seems that Wittgenstein here grants thought the very metaphysical/speculative pretensions he determines as beyond the limit of the thinkable. If viewing the world sub specie aeterni is what is "mystical", then isn't he here allowing that thought can indeed, as Thomas would put it, "go beyond the horizon" into the transcendent?

Maybe the word "belief" is key to reconciling this passage with the mainstream of his work -- i.e., with the word "belief" Wittgenstein distances himself from an assertion he wishes to make but which he can't logically defend. Strange admission indeed.

I don't know whether Wittgenstein wanted to keep the "refurbishing function" for philosophy. Philosophy clarifies things, resolves confusions, lets us see the world aright. That doesn't necessarily refurbish anything, it just delivers us from tying our shoelaces together then calling the fact that we can't walk properly a philosophical problem. Philosophy "leaves [the world] as it is". But when Emerson says that the poet "claps his wings to the sides of all the solid old lumber of the world" he indicates poet and world in a kind of direct engagement that I think Wittgenstein would forbid to the philosopher.

In Gary’s essay on Thoreau’s three methods of beholding, he writes the following of Thoreau’s beholding of the ants at war:

The observer witnesses above (remember Wittgenstein on thought and spirit) an event not able to be seen with a patient stillness. Such observation over-comes the observer as he over-takes the observed. Both observer and observed are, therefore, taken by surprise. In other words, Thoreau did not plan to behold ants-at-war. Nevertheless, once Thoreau becomes an observer, he stays to look on; in a significant manner, he fulfills an obligation. It is the case that the ants are at war but it is also the case that Thoreau stumbles across the ants at war.

I’m curious about the obligation. It seems to me that Thoreau pauses in a combination of wonder and horror, not because the scene requires an observer. Or are you suggesting, Gary, that this feeling of wonder and horror is precisely the way we (or at least Thoreau, in this scene) experience a certain kind of existential obligation (itself a form of lack, perhaps)?

The implied parallel (at least as I read it) between Wittgenstein’s view of the world sub specie aeterni and Gary’s take on the ant war scene seems to suggest that the world exhibits itself for the gaze of the poet or thinker. Maybe this is the flipside of the “mystical feeling” which haunts Wittgenstein. Or maybe the “mystical feeling” isn’t just viewing the world sub specie aeterni, but is also the feeling that our lives and their circumstances have a place in some divine drama exhibited for the sake of a transcendent observer (a role that we ourselves step into momentarily when we make/experience a work of art), the feeling that our “heroic” actions deserve a transcendent witness to acknowledge or “register” their significance – and that without the possibility of such a witness, such actions cease to be meaningful.

In relating Thoreau’s pursuit of the loon, I think that Gary intends to show a kind of beholding peculiar to artistic/literary experience and the possibility of which Wittgenstein overlooks. To wildly paraphrase Gary’s essay: a phenomenal “excess” constitutes the being of the work of art as a work of art (and not, say, as the mere physical object of a bound collection of pages with writing on them); this excess is “absorbed” by both audience and artist through appearing as an “unanswered question” (in this case, the loon and its laughter) the pursuit of which provides narrative its forward motion. Gary writes:

The image of Thoreau pursuing the loon appears for what it is worth. Nothing more of the pursuit remains after he retreats from it. The story itself is given. Nevertheless, a lingering unanswered question is there. And that unanswered question marks the call for participation with an audience—a reader or readers—who will use up any significance and behold or interpret the meaning of the event itself—Thoreau and the loon together. Reader and writer absorb anything abundant or excessive that the phenomenon gives up.

This may be huge leap, but I see this an elaboration of the Creely/Olson notion that form is an extension of content, that the poem “is energy transferred from where the poet got it (he will have some several causations), by way of the poem itself to, all the way over to, the reader” (from Olson’s Projective Verse).

And, well, yes I think I tend to agree (with my paraphrase at least), and I’d like to say that this is very close to what I mean when I say that poetry “reflects” / “projects” / “opens onto” / “embodies” / “enacts” / “recedes from” / “composes” something infinite like “truth”. Something escapes the finitude of phenomena and it is precisely this something which finds its way into poetry or art. But does an excess alone constitute infinity? Might a finite excess escape finite phenomena? Possibly – but then how could the poet, to use Emerson’s phrase, “clap his wings” against the world?

Wednesday, October 13, 2004

part x of laura carter's egret party

Laura just added part X to her long poem The Fifteenth Coming of the Egret Party.

Tuesday, October 12, 2004

jump

Prison sky
when we woke,
a penny ready

to jump – boys
with pockets full

of pharmaceuticals, soot
in the cracks of their lovely
knuckles, imaginary

dogs with one paw
too many. Never could
incite the clouds to leave

your rain behind. Pennies
lifted by their anchors.

Monday, October 11, 2004

national coming out day

Although I'm out in my day-to-day life, it occurs to me that I've never posted anything here that has anything remotely to do with my being queer. I've never given that fact much thought, but suddenly I wonder whether I've deliberately avoided the topic.

What could I be afraid of? Rejection, I suppose, is the easy answer -- but what a ridiculous fear given the overall friendliness and open-mindedness I've encountered in this corner of the blogosphere, and especially given the powerful presence of transdada just a link away. Perhaps it has to do with the expectations that go along with a label like "gay" or "queer" -- that I should be witty, lighthearted, neat, fashionable, a good dancer in both literal and metaphorical senses of the word; that I should, like every gay male poet or writer that I've ever been in a workshop with, forgo the philosophical for the pragmatic and write in narrative. (And why does it seem that queer women do all the cool stuff like make experimental art, talk theory, and form punk rock bands?) Maybe it's a fear that someone out there will think I'm trying to play the "victim" card (if such a card even exists outside of reactionary fantasies) -- i.e, that my writing and ideas just plain suck but that I hope to get them noticed by calling myself queer.

And then I'm thinking back to a recent post on Eduardo C. Corral's blog consisting of quote from Langston Hughes which equated a young author's desire to be considered "a poet" instead of "a Negro poet" with a subconscious desire to be white. Does my fear of being pinned to a label such as "queer" feed off of an analagous self-hatred?

Lest that be the case, consider me out. Here's a history of National Coming Out Day, from the HRC website.

Sunday, October 10, 2004

tractatus poetico-philosophicus

Thomas suggested re-writing the Tractatus by replacing certain words/concepts with other words/concepts. Below is a list of replacements made so far, and the beginning of a first draft. Find the entire document here. So far, most of the replacements are Thomas' suggestions (many from past conversation). I added a few that seemed to make sense given some of the other changes, such as thing=desire and sign=gesture.

object = subject
world = history
fact = action
logic = poetry (logical = poetic)
state of affairs = political situation
thought = feeling
concept = emotion
proposition = strophe
thing = desire
represent = present
picture = projection
sense = emotional sense
sign = gesture
philosophy = poetics

fact = action may be the most problematic. It defines poetry as an action (which I'm ok with, I suppose) but also produces odd phrases like "the action that such-and-such exists means that . . ."

Any revisions to the replacement list? Any Additions?



Perhaps this book will be understood only by someone who has himself already had the feelings that are expressed in it--or at least similar feelings [...]

1 History is all that is the case.

1.1 History is the totality of actions, not of desires.

1.11 History is determined by the actions, and by their being all the actions.

1.12 For the totality of actions determines what is the case, and also whatever is not the case.

1.13 The actions in poetic space are history.

1.2 History divides into actions.

1.21 Each item can be the case or not the case while every desire else remains the same.

2 What is the case--an action--is the existence of political situations.

2.01 A political situation (a state of desires) is a combination of subjects (desires).

2.011 It is essential to desires that they should be possible constituents of political situations.

2.012 In poetry no desire is accidental: if a desire can occur in a political situation, the possibility of the political situation must be written into the desire itself.

2.0121 It would seem to be a sort of accident, if it turned out that a situation would fit a desire that could already exist entirely on its own. If desires can occur in political situations, this possibility must be in them from the beginning. (No desire in the province of poetry can be merely possible. Poetry deals with every possibility and all possibilities are its actions.) Just as we are quite unable to imagine spatial subjects outside space or temporal subjects outside time, so too there is no subject that we can imagine excluded from the possibility of combining with others. If I can imagine subjects combined in political situations, I cannot imagine them excluded from the possibility of such combinations.

correspondence

from The Correspondence of Thomas Carlyle and Ralph Waldo Emerson, 1834-1872, Vol II.




1.


one error "narvest"

at present

the work itself falling driblets

to produce its due

sermon

deliberate utterances feel

jargons vain

words

worth repeating

object still


2.


speaker indeed solilquizer eternal

mountain affairs

hushed remoteness only

the stars visible so fine





3.


punch into

terrible like

vacant nothing


4.




paintable rainbows

facts

stammering

gymnosophist

bye I ought


5.


brief

reading cohere

of a clearness


beautiful square duck-shot canvas


Saturday, October 09, 2004

sad day

Just learned from fait accompli of Derrida's death. I feel foolish for feeling so shocked by the news. Did I think he was immortal? I guess a part of me wanted to . . . and somehow the future seems more foreboding than it did just a few minutes ago.

Thursday, October 07, 2004

silliman's reading

Smaller turnout than I'd expected, probably between 30-40. I was unprepared for the vigor and speed of his delivery, which heightened the senses of clarity and density. Image on top of image, image after image, frames of a film in which the subject matter of every frame is radically different from the preceding frame -- and yet an event seems in the process of unfolding, an event which spans many frames. That's probably not the best analysis of his poetry, but that's what the experience of listening to it was like. Immensely enjoyable.

Wednesday, October 06, 2004

generosity

Nick Piombino's generosity really blows me away. It seems to me that he's one of the major reasons why the "blogger-poet" corner of the blogosphere can be such a warm and engaging place to be. (And come to think of it, his aphorism that "the final thought of thought is freedom from thought" started the whole Wittgenstein thread -- which has become not just a part of my "blogging life" but a pretty significant part of my life in general of late). Thank you very much, Nick!

a response to thomas, more on infinity and wittgenstein

Thomas - I’m moved by what you have to say about grief and I’m coming to see what you mean by “emotion”.

First, I want to address your remark: “the sentence defines grief,” which you say was inspired by Tony Tost’s remark that “the sentence converts grief into language.” I’d like to quote a bit of it, because I think your notion of “definity” is profound.

I want to introduce the notion of "definity", a bringing-to-the-end. This happens in language.

The sentence (the strophe or the remark) defines grief.

This cannot, of course, happen in the moment of loss, which is infinite in the sense you propose AND intractable to poetry (if I'm right). And ordinary language does indeed operate on the basis of these show-stopping infinities.

When I speak of "definition" I mean this not as we encounter it in dictionaries, but in musculatures, i.e., embodiments. Bodies are finite.


I would like to attempt to sketch the possibility of a bridge between your notion of “definity” and my ramblings about infinity (and perhaps your wordplay “definitiy”/”infinity”already embodies the essence of such a sketch). Here are some notes that occurred to me as I was thinking about the possibility of that bridge -- and thinking, too, about my own changing relationship to Wittgenstein and what this means for me in terms of the project of deriving a poetics from the Tractatus).


  • To my “but emotion doesn’t go deep enough”, your reply might have been “aren’t you overlooking how ‘deep’ emotion can go? If we’re looking for ‘profundity’, we needn’t go all the way to (or past) the horizon. Just a few steps away from the front door will suffice.”

  • Wittgenstein drew (or drew our attention to) limits. Your characterization of poems as expressions of emotions draws analogous limits. In this sense, I think you’re closer to the spirit of Wittgenstein than I am when I describe poetry as a projection from something infinite (mind you, however, not a projection of infinity as a totality, but a projection from some part of an infinite field). We may read Wittgenstein against himself, but we shouldn’t abuse him, no? And I can see that my talk of infinity runs that risk.

  • Although the project of deriving a poetics from the Tractatus still interests me, particularly as it relates to refuting solopsism – and I think Gary’s recent posts have offered one interpretation of what “poetic solopsism” could mean – the results of this project may be ultimately incompatible with a poetics that I would define (or adopt) for myself. I am willing to accept this possibility, though it’s an outcome in which I would be disappointed.

  • It strikes me I would make this claim of incompatibility for one of three reasons. 1) I fully grasp and agree with, but do not take seriously,Wittgenstein’s injunctions about how to comport ourselves as thinkers (i.e., I’m deliberately unethical or a coward), or 2) I think that they (or aspects of them) are flawed; or 3): I do not fully grasp them. Most “Wittgensteinians” would, I think, out of charity, presume the 3rd possibility. As someone who once considered himself a “Wittgensteinian” I will of course claim the 2nd. But this claim is nevertheless tinged with a haunting fear that the 1st possibility is really the case. The psychological paralells between moving away from Wittgenstein toward other thinkers and “falling out of grace” with regard to previously-held religious beliefs are striking.

  • A quote from Deleuze, in What Is Philosophy? . . . I think my “truth” or “the real” is trying to get at something similar to what Deleuze calls “chaos” in this passage:

    In a violently poetic text, Lawrence describes what produces poetry: people are constantly putting up an umbrella that shelters them and on the underside of which they draw a firmament and write their conventions opinions. But poets, artists, make a slit in the umbrella, they tear open the firmament itself, to let in a bit of free and windy chaos and to frame in a sudden light a vision that appears through the rent – Wordsworth’s spring or Cézanne’s apple, the silhouettes of MacBeth or Ahab . . .

    Art takes a bit of chaos in a frame in order to form a composed chaos that becomes sensory . . .


  • I want to make it clear that by infinity I do not mean “absorption into the divine”, I do not mean “the mysical feeling of imagining the world as a limited whole”, and I do not mean “attempting to go beyond the horizon.” These are what I would provisionally call transcendent or “vertical” infinities, whereas I’m positing the existence of a strictly imminent or “horizontal” infinity, an infinity in which we’re always already situated. I believe that Wittgenstein showed us the fallacies inherent in thinking so-called transcendent infinities and that the horrors of the last century have forever stripped them of their veneer of innocence. With regard to the last point, you state it poignantly when you say

    It is because the reader's body and the body of the poem are finitudes that we must be very careful with the gesture that indicates what lies beyond the horizon.

    But, I want to say, I’m not talking about beyond the horizon, I’m talking about here, and there’s no horizon in sight. And what’s here exceeds my grasp by an infinite and immesurable degree, and we can call it the “real” or “truth” without making a totalitarian gesture because those words don’t mean anything more than this or that poem. What does “truth” look like, what does it say? We’ll, here’s a haiku, and here’s the Maximus Poems, and here’s some language poetry, and here’s the Wasteland.

    At the same time, I think your notion of “definity” comes so very close to what I’m attempting to articulate. “Definity”, yes, but the poem or strophe doesn’t “define” emotion exclusively. It defines truth (or, say, “the real”). When that truth consists of an emotion, then, yes, the emotion comes to definition in language. But it could also be a thought, an idea, an ephiphany, an insight, even a bored observation, a desire. Why isn’t it science then? The observation, the thought, the epiphany – these aren’t empirical facts, or even possible empirical facts. Facts might find their way into poems, but then the point of them being there isn’t to simply inform the reader. What about politics? Off the top of my head, I would say that just as poems don’t consist of mere empirical facts qua empirical facts, neither do they consist of political injunctions qua political injunctions.

  • If Wittgenstein didn’t address the notion of an “immanent infinity” then it may be possible to use his arguments to refute solipsism while at the same time grounding a poetics in the “immanent infinite” without violating the spirit of his work.


Monday, October 04, 2004

infinity

The conversation/debate with Thomas over in the comments on Dagzine continues to take unexpected turns. (Thomas is a marvelous interlocutor, by the way. The conversation has kept me on my toes and helped me refine some of my own thinking about Wittgenstein and poetics -- both separately and as they may or may not relate to one another). Recently I proposed the following summary and rewrite of Wittgenstein's picture theory of language.


  • A proposition’s articulateness amounts to its being picture of a possible state of affairs in the world; and it shows but cannot say the logical/pictorial form that it must have in common with reality in order to represent it. That propositions have logical/pictorial form means that the elements of the propositional picture stand in the same determinant relation to one another as the elements of the state of affairs. (Because a mere set of names isn’t determinate, it lacks logical/pictorial form and is thus inarticulate).

  • A poem’s articulateness amounts to its being a projection of the silent truth of (possible) impasses and injunctions within historical-political world; and it shows but cannot say the poetic-projective form that it must have in common with the truth in order to project it. That poems have poetic-projective form means that the associative play (e.g., metaphor, metonym, word-play, free unconscious association, etc) among elements of the poetic projection enacts the evolution of the social-political-historical situations and injunctions from which they are projected. (Because a mere set of associative elements doesn’t enact the evolution of any possible situation or injunction, it lacks poetic-projective form and is thus inarticulate).


Thomas made quite a few suggestions for improvement then added, as if channelling Wittgenstein himself, that he couldn't make sense of my reference to "silent truth". And why didn't "emotion" suffice?

"It just goes a lot 'deeper' than that for me," I anwered, "and [poetry] is as close to something spiritual as I generally get. Poetry (and art and music, etc.) open onto a kind of infinity for me, and maybe 'truth' isn't the best word, but it feels right to me and I could only substitute it with something else that (possibly) designates an infinity, such as 'the real'."

Thomas chastised me for what he perceived as a careless venture into metaphysics, pointing out that "an experience that is always geared to the horizon is, I’m afraid, totalitarian. Which has always been the problem with 'the sublime': it emphasises the total meaning over the sense of detail."

A few years ago I would have agreed (though I wouldn't been able to state it so succintly and effectively), and it was the shock of the accusation that I'd made a totalizing/totalitarian gesture that forced me to admit that the degree to which my thinking has changed over the past several years. It feels strange to admit to this to myself. Totalizing gestures, the danger of metaphysical notions like infinity . . . these were pivitol elements of my so-called intellectual life. I'm not who I used to be.

What's happened during that time? I haven't been in school. I've worked a corporate job. I've read less philosophy and more poetry. I've started writing poetry. I've lived in San Francisco. I've become more politically aware and active, encountered more radical politics, taken part in peace rallies, direct actions, etc. I've become less cynical, more frightened for the future, yet more optimistic than I've ever been. Deleuze and Hegel and Spinoza have all started to make much more sense. I've started reading Zizek and Lacan, from afar, has started making sense.

At least those are some of the biggies that, somehow, feel congruent with the shift in thinking.

At any rate, not to make a long and rambling entry longer, but I realized that I wanted to defend my use of infinity. I'm not sure that I did a very good job, but this is what I came up with:


I’d like to start with the notion of a totalizing gesture. I usually think of these as gestures which attempt to encompass the world as a whole, the kind which are likely to produce that “mystical feeling”. Strange as it may sound, this isn’t what I had in mind when I hastily defined poetry as a projection of something infinite. What I meant was something more like limitless, endless, or even infinitely divisible. Not a limited whole, but rather something unlimited and to which the concept of “whole” couldn’t possibly apply. You spoke of “an experience that is always geared to the horizon” but that notion of infinity presupposes a horizon in the first place, and then, yes, I’d agree, that’s probably totalitarian. I’m not talking about the “he’s got the whole world in his hands” kind of infinity (or the Hegelian “he’s got the whole of history in his head” kind of infinity), but infinities along the lines of the following:

The “extensional” infinity of the landscape, say, in a painting of a landscape, it’s “going on forever” beyond the frame.

The “intensional” infinity of the city (or the cityscape), its division into worlds within worlds.

The infinity of the loss of loved one who has passed away.

The infinity of relief that accompanies forgiveness.

The infinity of an institution, its endless proliferation of regulations and laws (similar to the infinite divisibility of the city).

The infinite novelty of something experienced for the first time.

There’s a sense in which all of these are merely metaphors, or in which they’re only “potentially infinite”, or in which they merely exceed our ability to grasp them. “ No matter how long I live, no matter how deeply I grieve, I will never cease to grieve.” “I can’t conceive of an end to this landscape – as soon as I think of it ending in an ocean, I think of another landscape beyond it, and I could continue thinking in this way for the rest of my life.” “Nothing could have prepared me for what an earthquake feels like.” But I want to say that, in ordinary language, that’s sometimes precisely what “infinite” means.



I imagine Thomas will take issue with some or all of this. And I hope he does -- it's been a great conversation and I'd hate for it to end now. But I wanted to post this part because, well . . . six or seven years ago, a philosophy professor of mine remarked that we've got find non-totalizing ways of thinking infinity -- or else risk not thinking at all. She didn't believe it was possible to do so until she read Deleuze -- and then thinking felt really alive again. Though Deleuze is only part of the picture for me, I think that, after all these years, I'm starting to see her point . . .

Sunday, October 03, 2004

paint string

washed, glare
of the proposition

along the sidewalk blows
his gaze down

passage gone
to buswire skinny

but with the paint string raised, where a loop
half hugged, half knocked

his picture stands still – champagne
for representation and states

of affairs, their logical
form over a hat or a nectarine

iron tension of the bone

now folded, cock in front
of the page, brisk

the mountains spill
tough red

Saturday, October 02, 2004

lanny quarles, trashpo vol 3

I hadn't had a chance to look at one of Lanny's TRASHPO volumes until now. I've really been missing out. Looks like he just posted volume 3. One could get lost in there for a very long time. Among a seemingly inexhaustible kaleidoscope of other details, the handwriting between typewritten lines makes quite a jolting impression.

back to life, part 2

And, happily, Alexander Cumberbatch's blog is back too . . .

Friday, October 01, 2004

back to life

A New Broom came back to life today with a powerful hay(na)ku.

work work work

Sheesh, what a week. Long hours and little time to post or formulate a response to Gary and Thomas over on Dagzine. I've been falling asleep on the BART, so I haven't much time write or read. Speaking of which (reading, not sleeping), I just picked one book by and one book about Alain Badiou, a philosopher who is rumored to have renewed and reorienting the task of philosophy away from its postmodern rut -- that is, moving us into something new, something else.

My critique group hated the poem I posted a few days ago, Any Pardon. Oh well, it was just an experiment. But I kind of liked it, maybe just because it felt so different from what I usually write, a bit of fresh air.