Saturday, September 11, 2004

am i missing something?

Internet's working well this morning. Trying to play catch-up, but need to eat soon.

Just read the entry on difficulty on Never mind the beasts. This isn't really a response to that entry, but rather to the notion of difficulty in (post-)avant poetry/art.

Is any (post-)avant art really that difficult? I mean, sure, it doesn't "make sense" when you first look at it. But that's a large part of the point, isn't it, to make art that's not restricted by received notions of "what makes sense"? (After all, if art must subordinate itself to sense, then it becomes just another moment of the rational -- it ceases to be able to stand on its own as art). Once you realize this, doesn't it become significantly less difficult?

Maybe you still have to wrestle with how to approach it, spend a little time figuring out how it's questioning your relationship to it, but a lot of this is done on an "intuitive" and not a strictly "intellectual" level. Unless the work is deeply coded (for lack of a better word -- I'm thinking of coded in the sense of Pound -- everything is a reference to something that you need a kind of dictionary to decipher), then you still approach the work of art as a work of art -- that is, as something that (potentially) affects you on a kind of "gut" level. If you find the work of art interesting or moving, you might spend time analyzing it, figuring out how it accomplishes its effects, uncovering additional layers of resonance and play. But the point is that the analysis doesn't need to come first -- and I think that a great deal of (post-)avant work is talked about in such way that presupposes the analysis must come first -- indeed, it seems this presupposition is precisely what is meant when a work is described as "difficult".

2 Comments:

Crag said...

Jay:

Thanks for reading -- orienting to -- Compass Points. Some day I want to go to burning man, too.

I've been wondering if there is any avant-garde in literature. Writing to the left of Billy Collins most assuredly, but I'm hard pressed to find writing that's avant-garde of writing started in the 1970s.

If we have been going laterally for twenty years, we've been digging deeper. In other words, maybe not avant-garde but some amazing writing still being produced.

Best, Crag

6:41 PM  
Jay said...

Crag,

Thanks for your comment. The more time I spend with the Compass Points, the more engrossed in them I become. They really are treasures.

I wonder how one would define an avant-garde except in a relative, "left of Billy Collins", sense. That I have a difficult time concieving another possiblity might be testament to the fact that I became aware of post-avant writing long after it had earned the "post" prefix. I've noticed a couple of L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E articles which seem to express hope of establishing a non-commodifiable poetics, and I wonder whether this could count as a possible definition of an absolute, not relative, avant-garde. If we went with this definition, then perhaps writing for which web-based publication is the only reaslistic option (I'm thinking of interactive work, and also of lengthy computer-generated or assisted experiments) could be considered legitimately avant-garde -- at least inasmuch as web-only publications can be considered "virtual" commodities rather than actual commodities (i.e., they're generally not bought and sold, regardless of whether or not they look like things that are bought and sold).

By the way, I want one of those copies of Score 18! If I can just remember to bring a check with me when I leave the house in the morning . . . !

1:18 PM  

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